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1. Alex Grant (2010-01-21) #

   Great comments--nice to hear from you again, Derek.

2. Paul Pajo (2010-01-21) #

   I better find this book and have my musician friends read it! Based on the reviews, it sounds like a compelling read!

3. mr. tunes (2010-01-21) #

   i loved this book. but for some musicians it might be hard medicine to swallow since we're always taught that it's important to work on music that connects with people, and "what works".
   
   the industry(mainstream and underground alike), work on the principle that is has to fit into a box. it has to be a genre, and if it isn't a genre, we have to identify what genres it is a combo of. this makes it very hard to be really original out the gate.

4. Oscar Ortega Chato (2010-01-21) #

   "Once you start to conform to something, you will be ignored" - Seth's Blog ;)

5. Mark Campbell (2010-01-21) #

   Originality is always desireable , especially as the numbers grow in any art . Trend followers will always kill off any trend .

6. Bela R. Balogh (2010-01-21) #

   Missed you, Derek. Thanks for visiting us again!

7. Mike Admani (2010-01-21) #

   As a music exec I don't believe in the "Ignore Everybody" belief. If you want to make music for yourself then live in a basement for the rest of your life. If you want to touch masses then remember that "Compromise Equals Creative Genius".
   
   God Speed
   
   M

8. Al Hemberger (2010-01-21) #

   Ha! I bought my own on your recommendation, Derek!
   
   Loved it. Little, meaningful, concise, clear ideas with little cartoons. Just my speed!
   
   Sometimes I find the title running thru my head like a new mantra: "...ignore everybody...ignore everybody...ignore everybody...."

9. Josh Damigo (2010-01-21) #

   I've talked with Hugh a few times since reading the book. Best book that I read in 2009. Now if we could only get him to come hang out in California, and quit baggin on us... :-D

10. Joel D Canfield (2010-01-21) #

    I was going to say that I'd love to hear a negative review of Hugh's book; seeing nothing but raves seems artificial (though I know it's not so in this case.
    
    I got my wish before I got to the comment box . . .
    
    "Compromise Equals Creative Genius"
    
    Without resorting to bad manners, I cannot state in strong enough terms how completely I disagree with this.
    
    And there's the negative comment I was looking for . . .

11. Tommy Snyder (2010-01-21) #

    I love this idea and I believe there is a definitive line between success and compromise. Anyone who has had a major label deal will tell you, the label will compromise you to death. At some point, you have to start ignoring them or you will lose every bit of your identity. Who wants to sell their soul for a deal??? Eventually even that goes away.

12. Jim Maurer (2010-01-21) #

    Some 'right on' comments and I look forward to reading the book

13. Pam Mark Hall (2010-01-21) #

    @Mike Admani ~ I understand what you are saying ~ in terms of commerciality i.e. making a living, at some point an artist is subject to the opinions of their audience, and if signed to a label, to the opinions of recognized tastemakers. I think MacLeod's point is that an artist, musician, novelist, dancer, etc. is more likely to find a lucrative niche if they intially trust their own gut, their vision, and then find a market that resonates with it. Major label recording artists are definitely those (at least in this era) who are groomed to the tastes of the masses, which means lowest common denominator. That is one choice, but since there are so few slots in mega stardom, I think MacLeod is fleshing out Seth Godin's mantra of "find your own tribe" Your tribe is the one that resonates with an artists authentic self, voice, music, art, dance, etc.
    
    Ian Rogers, CEO of TopSpin Media, refers to MacLeod's "Ignore Everybody" artist as the new "middle class" of musicians.
    
    Cheers,
    Pam Mark Hall
    www.pammarkhall.blogspot
    www.reverbnation.com/pammarkhall

14. Neil Caciottolo (2010-01-21) #

    It is nice to listen to suggestions; but the musician really needs to follow his or her own path because every situation is different. What will work for one, does not necessarily work for the other. I consult musicians on a daily basis; I offer suggestions relative to fact, but it is up to the talent to follow it through or choose another means.

15. Roy Stone (2010-01-21) #

    I never ignore everybody, input is to be sifted but not ignored in my opinion, the only thing I ignore imput on is initial the goal of the project, or I get pushed from pillar to post!!

16. Ian Bruce (2010-01-21) #

    hugh mac is an asshole and should be totally ignored.

17. John Hebert (2010-01-21) #

    Art & Commerce, Art & Commerce & never the two shall meet.
    As I get older I see more & more musicians, dissatisfied with their lot in life. One common trait:they all play other people's music. I pursue cover bands here and there to make an extra buck(to be fair I am a returning adult student, after 20 years of struggling I had to go back and pursue additional education), but I also still have an original project, something considered anathema to older more "serious" musicians that want to get paid. I find that the creative rewards are worth their weight in gold, and it has freed me up to work on what matters most:THE MUSIC!!! Consequently, this project has gotten significantly better feedback and attention than when I was younger and desperate to "make it".

18. Carrie Lewis (2010-01-21) #

    I definitely will have to check out the book. Sounds as if it is at least interesting. :-P

19. Ian Bruce (2010-01-21) #

    making money with your music, songwiting and/or covers is natures way of telling you that you are a true musician.
    
    a musician who understands music can rule the world, thus the beatles, the stones, led zepplin,
    cream.
    
    IS NOT THE SONG "IMAGINE" a true work of art & money?????
    
    touch my soul & make me feel and i'll buy you dinner (if i have any money).

20. ron mceachern (2010-01-21) #

    Nothing means nothing unless you can make money and feed yourself.
    Every newbe knows more by doing nothing and every old schooler knows all but never makes enough to retire.
    If you don't like the ART just go away.If your good, you eat, if your not, go home and practice.

21. Jerry Herrera (2010-01-21) #

    Hi Derek,
    good to see u back, great lessons here to learn
    Reff:
    http://www.biblebrowser.com/proverbs/9-9.htm

22. Chris Daniels (2010-01-21) #

    It is a hybrid business --part electric (internet) and part gas (gigs) and in order to make the most of both you have to be able (as Martin Atkins says) to drive all night get out of the van hit the blog, sound check and then come out and kill on stage. That is the new reality and anything that helps you deal with that is a positive read.

23. Marie Sheldon (2010-01-21) #

    I got this book a while back and loved it. But I read books not expecting them to have all the answers, or to follow every recommendation. I look for something helpful, insightful, to pull out of it. No one has THE answer for whatever it is we're trying to figure out for ourselves, but I love the daring of those willing to share with the rest of us.

24. Jason Molin (2010-01-21) #

    Hey Derek, here's my 2 cents: http://jasonmolin.net/2010/01/09/ignore-everybody-except-hugh-macleod/
    Awesome. Thanks! -- Derek

25. Douglas Jones (2010-01-21) #

    YOU GOTTA ADMIT IT IS REALLY COOL TO MAKE MONEY WHILE YOUR HAVING A GOOD TIME!!!

26. Joshua Payne (2010-01-21) #

    thanks for the great feedback! i'm off to get the book!

27. Ari Koinuma (2010-01-21) #

    I'll head over to the library web site and see if they have it. Right now.
    
    Library is a musician's friend.
    
    ari

28. J.J. Vicars (2010-01-21) #

    It was an honor to be a part of this project. Derek Sivers has done more than any other single person in recent times to change the industry for the better. I'm looking forward to reading what the other musicians have to say. I'm sure it's much better that some of the detractors who have posted here who don't seem to have read the book or our notes.

29. Rob Cooke (2010-01-21) #

    I disagree,
    
    Stay true to your art yes, but that doesn't mean you have to compromise how you feel about your art if you, for example want to become more commercial... That's up to how you choose to feel about it.
    
    I used to ignore all advice and it got me nowhere. Recently a new friend of mine who has an impressive history in the creative/entertainment industry suggested some ways I might be able to improve some of my songs and I listened.
    
    I immediately, on his suggestion went back to re-record and re-write a song that he liked, but thought could be better.
    
    The result was a big success, especially in to my ears where I love wehat the song has become even more than it was.
    
    You have to balance what your heart tells you and your ego.
    
    If you make music, you want other people to enjoy it, whether you care about it making money or not because it's about sharing, so I suggest that sharing extends to advice in the creative process.

30. Rob Cooke (2010-01-21) #

    Actually I'd like to add:
    
    It would be better advice to say
    
    "Ignore everybody who's suggestions are unconstructive"
    
    But that wouldn't make a compelling book title would it? ;)

31. Adam Cole (2010-01-21) #

    "Compromise equals creative genius"
    
    IF
    
    you are compromising with people who care about what you are creating. Then it's collaboration, and the result is greater than one person's limitations (and even one person's vision).
    
    On the other hand, compromising with people who have a different agenda than you might be a very bad thing.
    
    Either way, the audience is real. You can choose to ignore what other people in your life say, but that doesn't mean they aren't there.

32. Celeste (2010-01-21) #

    I am ignoring you.

33. Bill Thurman (2010-01-21) #

    hi Derek
    
    I read your notes on the book. "Sing in your own voice, write from the heart, and remain frugal." pretty good advice, Derek.
    
    Bill

34. Stefan Daniel Bell (2010-01-21) #

    Derek
    
    Thank you for this blog! I will get the book based on your recomendation. How cool that everyone put time into this!
    
    Furthermore. Thank you so much for Your work in this area. I have been very inspired by your advice and simple steps.
    
    Many blessings
    -stefan

35. David Griffith (2010-01-21) #

    I've read six of the 'full posts' ... thanks very much for your clarity and willingness to share.
    
    I'll have a cuppa and play my blues scale 'number 1' before tackling the remaining posts.
    
    surely the 'ignore everybody' in the book title translates as 'believe in yourself' and isn't as literal as it first appears.

36. KEVINDWOOD (2010-01-21) #

    I’m talking Music
    
    I can’t help but wonder, if your a true genius and you ignore everybody and do your thing, then only few, if any will understand you.
    
    However if you differ to the general populace and make things simply understood through your genius you may be appreciated, however you may catch on.
    If your low end genius, then maybe you will be appreciated by a much larger spectrum of people, as being appealing to the masses produces larger numbers in the audience. I think maybe being mid to high end average increases your probability of popularity, and allows for the greatest potential level of success, and I think by that we mean monetary reward.
    
    If you’re a blazing high end genius then it’s likely you will be alone, unless you use your genius to identify with a full spectrum of intellectual development, then of course your not ignoring anyone.
    kw
    Good to hear from you again Derek

37. Rob Bryce (2010-01-21) #

    I'm a film maker not a musician, but I love music and it's massive component of my craft!
    
    For me it's about staying true to your own idea and taking ownership of it.
    
    To be absolutely honest though my idea always becomes stronger when I encompass the views of other craft skilled colleagues ab ... my creative camera crews, directors of photography, vt editors, sound and lighting engineers.
    
    I always try to give my clients what I believe they need, not what they want!
    
    Of course there is risk in that - financial and reputation - however I have to say if you deliver something surprising and out of the ordinary 99% of the time you have a customer who believes they have received way more than they expected.
    
    http://robbryce.com/2009/07/grabbing-the-bull-by-the-horns/
    
    Make your music sound like everyone else's and you will not surprise or delight.
    
    Be true to yourself, and trust those you respect. None of us live in a vacuum!

38. Lee Alford (2010-01-21) #

    If one thing worked for every artist they would all be successful.
    
    Hugh is not a singer, so what works for him with his 'art' may or may not work for a singer.
    
    I do know connecting with fans while on stage works and works well, if you know how to make the most out of it. And, to that end, no one does it better than Tom Jackson and his group out of Nashville.

39. angela patua (2010-01-21) #

    *my friend i hope this year working much more in my music* thnk so much,feliz 2010*

40. Evan (2010-01-21) #

    I've read the book and found it not only entertaining but a very cool "reality check" on leading a more productive and happy life. Big thumbs up!

41. Michael McKinney (2010-01-22) #

    Wow, I must say that I am not the person to ask "what do you think?".
    I am the person who will always state, " There are two types of people in this world..." However, I tend to always have a different example.
    1.Givers and Takers
    2.Passionate and Non Passionate
    3.People who read the books and People who write them.
    4.etc...
    My point is, There are "Two Types of People in the World" One size does not fit all. However...
    The best experience I've had in life, was failure. Change does not occur for me by reading a book. "Passion Drives Me...
    Failure Changed the Direction of My Passion." Very few things in life can change someone's Passion. Think about it - Michael

42. Susan (2010-01-22) #

    I loved Ignore Everybody. Here's my take on a chapter that particularly resonated:
    
    http://cinderbridge.blogspot.com/2010/01/sex-and-cash.html
    
    And here's the catch:
    
    http://cinderbridge.blogspot.com/2010/01/through-cracks.html
    Love it. Thanks! -- Derek

43. Linda Coogan Byrne (2010-01-22) #

    Ah this wildy and vividly captures the artists struggle for the development of their craft in the crazy world of music.
    
    I especially love the notion that "Success" is "possible and attainable".
    
    Coz it Is!

44. Lee Cutelle (2010-01-22) #

    Definitely food for thought.

45. Valentin Gavan (2010-01-22) #

    Interesting opinions.

46. Lammy (2010-01-22) #

    my mom thinks
    my singing should be censored . . . permanently!
    ~~so I learned how to whistle
    in perfect key.
    
    The girls I once loved . . ,
    well, they all abandon me.
    ~~but now the songs i wrote about them . . .
    make me money!
    
    ~~~after working for my Dad . . .
    25 years of my life
    ~~~~he fired me ~ . .
    and married his lovely young wife''~~
    
    but guess what?
    now I'm a singer/songwriter/guitarist/editor/producer/& I create music for movies and T.V. . . .
    
    wait, one more time again . . who is he?
    
    
    L A M M Y

47. Michael S Autry (2010-01-22) #

    When I was a child my parents taught me to do what made me happy not what made me money and unhappy. Since learning that lesson completely and accepting the consequences of my decision I can truly say my parents were right.

48. Dan-O | DanoSongs.com (2010-01-22) #

    Hey Derek!
    
    This was a stellar idea.
    
    I read the book...
    
    To me it means:
    
    Courage
    
    and
    
    Faith
    
    Dan-O

49. Michael Bratt (2010-01-22) #

    ‘the more original your idea is, the less good advice people will be able to give you.’
    
    awesome

50. Caro Churchill (2010-01-22) #

    nice to hear the transferable perspectives. (un)fortunately it is in me only to pursue what i believe in anyway - and being accused of being unique i see as perhaps not the most (financially, popularity) rewarding path, but rather exciting. thanks to all for reviewing - look forward to reading them all

51. Seth Davis (2010-01-22) #

    loved the book myself...funny, potent, painful & instructive.
    great reviews. especially love amy correia's.
    good idea & execution, derek
    thanks
    s

52. Manjia Luo (2010-01-22) #

    Sorry, i am very busy for my coming solo violin/Piano concert in theatre, that i can not read all of your comments and writing. i just pick up a couple to read and i like them:
    
    1. Joe Leonard
    “You alone can create your destiny and reality..."
    
    Hello, Joe. Your comment just like written for me. i did it.
    
    2.Ian Bruce
    "making money with your music, songwiting and/or covers is natures way of telling you that you are a true musician."
    
    i would like Ian buy me a dinner if he had momey, for i am a truly musician.

53. Manjia Luo (2010-01-22) #

    Forgot, and add again:
    
    thanks for best friends - Derek Sivers's blog and Hugh Macleods's book tittles
    
    (i haven't find book, only read a little bit through Derek blog)

54. Juan Miguel (2010-01-22) #

    Thanks Derek,
    
    My question is how do I get my hands on the book here in the Dominican Republic is it available on internet. I want the book because based on some of the comments I readed, I feel it could be a good tool to have in your hands.
    Anyone want to send their copy to Juan Miguel? Just click his name here to go to his site, and contact him directly. -- Derek

55. Danny Schneider (2010-01-22) #

    It's good to be reminded that the serious creation of music needs to be fun and light.

56. Bill Pere (2010-01-22) #

    This fundamental set of choices between following your own instinct to the exclusion of all else, versus trying to imitate what is already successful is the essence of my book, "Songcrafters' Coloring Book". I try to present ways that artists can traverse that maze and find both artistic and commercial success. An extreme position on either side (Ignore Everybody or Follow Everybody) will generally not lead to fulfillment.
    
    ...Bill Pere

57. Jeffrey White (2010-01-22) #

    I haven't read it yet, but I like the title. It's make sense.

58. Kellie Frazier (2010-01-22) #

    I really appreciated the thoughts expressed by your choice of readers Derek. Whether your in music or any other industry their thoughts match that of most sustainable millionaires. It comes down to stewardship. Knowing what you have, knowing where it is, and knowing what to do with it when you have it.
    
    Good to hear from you again. I was starting to miss you.

59. Birgit Beier (2010-01-22) #

    Yes it took me years to discover that and the pain was just too big to still have to work in jobs I disliked. Now here with all the foreigners we can be happy to have a job and I wrote something like this into my website a new one for the German area. There people had difficulties doing art.We had our pictures distroit. My mother things I can't sing and as I have a child I should not do art anyway. That was the reason to do the website which writes about this issue and the issue with the parents.

60. Victoria Galinsky (2010-01-22) #

    CHANGE is FEAR

61. JEFF HIBBARD (2010-01-22) #

    havnt read the book but its great to hear from you derek.

62. Paula Benson (2010-01-22) #

    Yeah!!!!! Yeah!!!!!
    
    I have to read the comments later, so another thought will be expressed by me. I read some portion of the book. I just want to yell so bad. I can't keep my hands off of my face from the joy of the portion that I read. Derek thank you thank you thank you.
    
    Have a great day Derk.

63. Rab Townsend (2010-01-22) #

    I liked that bit about how people won't be able to provide productive feedback on an original idea - probably because they lack the originality to come up with an equally original response to meet it with...
    
    Likewise, the idea that those close to you will be unable to provide positive feedback on creative ideas. I've often found that, even in the case of my non-musical ideas, my close friends and family consider them to be beyond the capabilities of one person, and far too daunting for them to help without putting in a lot of time. Well... that's what you do with good ideas, you throw the stupid ones out the door so that you have time to work on the good ones. (granted, close friends also often think my best ideas are stupid. they became less close friends soon after...)
    
    With regard to the "selling out" bit, and the "waiting to get noticed" bit - People often don't realize that when they are independent artists, they can typically make more money in a niche market self-releasing albums and making full profit than by joining a label, giving up large percentages of sales income to that label, and only reaching a marginally larger audience before the label drops you because you're not pretty enough.

64. TerryLee WHETSTONe (2010-01-22) #

    Osiyo/hello,
    My question is how do I get my hands on the book here in Union MO. I want the book because based on some of the comments I readed, I feel it could be a good tool to have in your hands or at at least read and pass on to another artist.
    I am in this rut! Been here for some time and need to grow and expand - need to reach more people and those above my level of income.
    Wa-do'/thank you and blessings to everyone.
    TerryLee

65. James Pew (2010-01-22) #

    It was great being a part of this Derek. Musician/Producer Shawn Daley who also works at Euphonic Sound with me read the book and posted his thoughts on Studio Manifesto - http://studiomanifesto.ca/2010/01/22/5-key-points-of-ignore-everybody-for-musicians/
    
    We are looking for musicians and creative music biz types to write profiles on, who are putting to good use the general ethos of Ignore Everybody (which seems to be an extension of Seth Godin's ideas in Tribes and other Seth Godin books/blogs). These profiles will be posted to our new category Ignore Everybody.
    
    On my way to read the other 14 musicians thoughts... :~>
    
    James
    Very cool. Anyone else who has written their thoughts on the book, please reply below with the exact link. Thanks! -- Derek

66. Katie Ketchum (2010-01-22) #

    I haven't read the book yet and I look forward to it. In response to a lot of the blogging: After being a musician all my life, I am now realizing that Americans have a very narrow definition of success for a musician. That was a source of pain when I was younger. Everytime I sang or played people would say: " You should be on t.v." They couldn't seem to enjoy the moment. The gift i was giving them right then. It was never enough, unless I was on t.v. Music and art is very amazing whether or not the artist has the "mark of approval" from the American public. I am an American, but I find that television and lack of music education, has ruined our concept of art and music. As for competition, there can never be enough music. I see a world with music on every street corner! LIVE! I no longer want my "musical babies" (original songs) to have the pressure of being a major bread winner. It changes what you write. True art is made for the pleasure of the artist and if the audience enjoys it--that's icing on the cake. Now that I see my music as a spiritual path, I am starting to get the bookings and gigs I always wanted. It is fair that an artist should be well supported, but not to let it rule one's art.

67. Joe Leonard (2010-01-22) #

    Thanks for the opportunity to read and APPLY Hugh McLeod's key concepts to my music and biz, Derek.
    
    I wanted to let your readers know that I broke my analysis of "Ignore Everybody" into several related blog posts on my site: http://www.cactusjoeproductions.com
    
    Also, since you were so generous to send me the complimentary copy of "Ignore Everybody" I would like to "pay it forward" by sending it to another aspiring artist who reads your blog and comments.
    
    So fellow artists, if you are reading this and would like to share in Hugh McLeod's wisdom and apply some of it to your own efforts, simply e-mail me at info@cactusjoeproductions.com
    
    I only have one copy, so make a compelling case for why you should get it and how you will APPLY and SHARE this book with your comrades. For example, you will write about it on your blog etc. I'll pick whoever I think is the strongest candidate.
    
    I'll mail it out after I make my decision, U.S. addresses only please!
    
    Joe Leonard

68. Michael Mayorga (2010-01-22) #

    Derek, I thought you were kidnapped. I enjoy the emails you send with new posts to your blog. Its been awhile so Im glad to see you back.

69. David Barr (2010-01-22) #

    Derek, glad to hear from you. I have never considered doing it any other way than my way. I do consider myself the only copy, the only blueprint. My music is me and all my influences. Thanks for being there.

70. Richard D'Anjolell (2010-01-22) #

    Sounds like the experiment worked. Good to hear most people are energized after reading.

71. Joe Leonard (2010-01-22) #

    Hi everyone. Thanks for checking out my analysis of Hugh McLeod's book that Derek gave me the honor of reading and trying to APPLY to my art.
    
    One point of contention I had with Hugh's book was his key of letting INSPIRATION find you, rather than vice versa.
    
    I'm totally a polar opposite on this. I believe you have to actively seek inspiration. That's why I do FEBRUARY ALBUM WRITING MONTH every year (http://www.fawm.org/fawmers/cactusjoe)
    
    I posted several posts on my blog relevant to APPLYING McLeod's "keys" to my music and life. The one about INSPIRATION is here: http://cactusjoeproductions.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/inspiration/
    
    Thanks.
    
    Joe Leonard
    
    ps, to read my other in depth commentaries, visit http://www.cactusjoeproductions.com - I am always available to discuss these topics in more depth.

72. Paul Thomas (2010-01-22) #

    What impresses me is that you know Bobby Owsinski...his "The Mixing Engineer's Handbook" is a bible for us mixing engineers. As for songwriting...if it's not truly original, it's no fun.

73. Dr. Leo W. Pickett (2010-01-22) #

    Thanks Derek. It just makes good sense to have everything in one place as one of the musicians stated "One stop shopping"
    
    Dr. Leo

74. Rachel Walker (2010-01-22) #

    What is an oxymoron to all of this, is the society we are now living in is trying very hard to destroy the individual thinker, the original..and make a bunch of clones...or submitted conformists....which to me means a dead society...
    Universal dementia....
    Rachel

75. Wes Gonzalez (2010-01-22) #

    To put it plainly, I hate reading...but this book was written in a way that was so down to earth that I couldn't stop reading it after I picked it up.
    
    What it really did for me was fuel my inspiration not only for my music, but also the way that I promote it.
    
    On top of that, it really hammered in the idea that I need realize that I have to do everything on my own without the help of anyone. Luckily, thats starting not to sound discouraging anymore.

76. Alfred Hawkins (2010-01-22) #

    Hi,Derek I see your at it again!!lol!! and I must say I do like this article and what I get out of it "ignore everybody" is process is always gonna outweigh promise in other words if all the newbe's master the process then how major would the labels be I know this may be a bit off but just think how major labels make money off of artist ignorance

77. sandy famiglietti (2010-01-22) #

    The earth is but an echo of the music that dwells in man's soul.
    Originality over imitation, a great mind with persuasive sound shuns the beaten path.

78. Ben Pasley (2010-01-22) #

    I read the short excepts from everyones posts
    and I found that the book made them "Think",
    which is a positive. I don't remember who said it but the phase..."the music industry is 10% Art and 90% business"...is totally correct to me.
    If you're a great Artist and can't be bothered in knowing how to market your material, you need to hire someone to do it for you;because if you don't,either way,you're lost before you begin.

79. Andrew Calhoun (2010-01-22) #

    Well if I follow the advice of the title, I won't read it.

80. George Finizio (2010-01-23) #

    Definitely interesting perspective...if it works, it reminds me of what one teacher commented to me a long time ago..."It's hard to argue with success."

81. Jason Miles (2010-01-23) #

    I have read many of Seth Godins books.He's very brilliant. I've read other peoples books as well on marketing music and music.The reality is very few people are going to have a career in music. I've known great musicians who haven't gotten anywhere because they're sense of business is terrible.I've met great business people who are just Ok musicians.This business is not for the weak stomich and no matter what you think unless you have that true gift and have the true sense of who you are and what level your talent is at-You may never make a living in this business,especially in our modern times when defining this business is not easy
    Peace, Jason

82. Bob Nierstedt (2010-01-23) #

    I believe there are a lot of people in the entertainment business who are able to take someone with limited talent and make them into a 'star' You can see examples on TV every night. The general public needs to be told who is a 'star','celebrity' 'personality' etc.and they seem to go for it head over heels. I watched the video of Susan Boyle on "Britian's Got Talent" Susan had little going for her except, unlike a lot of singers who have very little talent yet are superstars making a bundle,Susan could really sing, and if you want to hear someone who can really sing,why does she need a makeover? Joe Cocker, on the other hand does not have a great voice but he can really put a song acrosswith the voice he has. I could enjoy listening to either of them because their talent was within them and they were unique without being instructed on how to be unique.Today's entertainment business is hype, smoke and mirrors,with very little real substance.

83. Parris Walton (2010-01-23) #

    Pay the creator!Hugh Macleod kept it simple yet impactful.
    Need I say more?
    paythecreator.com

84. Jim Zachar (2010-01-23) #

    What a great read. I will use this knowledge to further my goals Thanks Derek for the info.

85. Dan McCann (2010-01-23) #

    Regardless of reward or even consequence, the question is "Do I make this Damn thing exist or not?"
    Thanks Derek!

86. Paula Benson (2010-01-23) #

    So far I've read 1 full comment from Chuck Anderson. His comments were very encouraging. Being myself has helped me sing a different voice.

87. Denise Russell (2010-01-23) #

    i am off to get this book!!!

88. Fred Bair (2010-01-24) #

    This was a very creative and generous idea!

89. Queenie (2010-01-24) #

    Has anyone ever heard the statement: "Those who can do, those who can't teach" ? Basically it implies that anyone with a day job, i.e. anyone who isn't a rock star or at the top of his chosen field is incompetent.
    
    I was very frustrated the other day when someone repeated that senseless, horrible old saying on Facebook. This musicians' discussion of not quitting day jobs has been very healing. My heartfelt thanks goes out to Derek and all of you that have reviewed, blogged, and commented.

90. Jim Becker (2010-01-24) #

    I'm sick of artists who are pandering to what they think will sell... where's the risk taking? When does someone in a position to shake things up write something that will create conversation, dissention, and polarity? In our quest for unity we've become bland, bland, bland.... dare to write what you REALLY think... make it relevant and, the more people who get pissed, the more successful you'll be!

91. David Allen (2010-01-24) #

    This sounds like an interesting book, so I added it to itunes wishlist for later.
    
    From what I am reading here, the message resonates with some and pisses off others. MacLeod is setting an example he wants creative people to follow just by how his own work is received.

92. glory reinstein (2010-01-24) #

    Hi Derek:
    Just ordered the book along with Seth's "Purple Cow" book. I believe artist's need to be themselves, believe in themselves, work hard, and produce a "purple cow"--something that stands out from the ordinary.

93. matt (2010-01-24) #

    Thanks for the info. I look forward to sitting down and reading the book (when I get the free time).

94. Mick Flores (2010-01-25) #

    I need to dig a bit deeper into all the blogs ..thanks Derek.

95. Cazzy Love (2010-01-25) #

    Very interesting...
    The music industry is quite amazing indeed.
    You can see a master keyboardist who has played incritate jazz chords for 35 years and done hundreds of gigs play and play forever..and just stay in the bar scene....and then you can see some 15 year old kids that can come along into a guy or girl group...that have been rehearsing for one year...come along and make a pop or rap hit and make millions.
    You can be a great musician and still be in a rut. You can know a little song and dance and be on tv on two days and not even know a single chord.
    I would say that this changed when MTV came on the scene...all of a sudden, people were able to see the performers now and not just hear them. So little by little people cared less and less about the chords and more about the flash or the look.
    
    Its all relative...
    All in all I would say that the music industry nowadays is geared more towards teeny boppers.

96. radionowhere (2010-01-25) #

    Thanks, Derek - what a great idea to farm these reviews out to such thoughtful, articulate musicians!
    
    I had actually already read both of these books, but getting 15 different takes on the core ideas was very valuable: I think the material is actually more likely to stick in my head now than it would have been if I'd just reread the books myself a few times.
    
    Hope you do this again...

97. Clay Wilson (2010-01-25) #

    I agree with a lot of what this person says about not worrying about what others think. Definitely be yourself when writing songs. I think that's why my songs generally are so innovative. I have never conciously tried to sound like someone else, or write songs that sounded like someone else. As one of my lyrics goes, "Be true to thine self, and you won't be so preoccupied with whether people are on your side. You'll be more loving!" That sums it up for me. Thanks Derek for the opportunity to voice my view.

98. Chris Robinson (2010-01-25) #

    Thanks Derek. Brilliant article & shared discussion. So much food for thought and a great read!
    
    There's not much more i can add other than a comment on Queenie (#89)'s comment - The quote about teaching is often used as a putdown by non-teachers, but i've come to see it as a relevant compliment. So many many brilliant artists, performers, writers etc will never see their work in the megasales/fame league, and sharing skills and experience passes the magic onto others as a gift for life. It doesn't pay many bills but it can satisfy the artistic 'soul'.
    
    In fact, fame has degenerated into celebrityhood and most hitsongs sound like immitations of each other anyway (eg, the screaming tweeny autotune chicks).. so logic says that in such a monopolized climate of mediocrity - the best work is not in the bigtime anyway, so why expect it? Its like a whole lot of chefs trying to reach people who only eat hamburgers.
    
    PS - i know you're not there anymore but i heard that CD Baby is donating a dollar from each album to help earthquake victims. Wouldn't it be good to see all the big time sellers immitate (or improve on) that instead of cashing on it with syndicated concerts?
    
    I'll go back to blissfully ignoring everyone now.. hopefully make another album oneday just for the fucovit ;)
    
    happy australia day 2 u and yr readers!

99. Hiroaki Asakawa (2010-01-26) #

    I have read straight through this book, and I think a lot of the points he makes are very good advice. However, some things he discussed don't work for every person. That is because not every person is the same. Especially the part where he says it's better to make your passion a hobby. I think Hugh MacLeod didn't really know what his true passion was until he started making bank.
    
    I suggest people reading Wealth Dynamics by Roger Hamilton. It suggests that people have 8 different profiles which means 8 different flows for success. Here is the website: http://www.wdprofiletest.com/
    
    The people who find this book to be the best book ever have the same profile as the author. Others, have different profiles. It is very interesting and worth the read.

100. Sue (2010-01-26) #

     I've got to get this book! It's haunting me...

101. Nina Yasmineh (2010-01-26) #

     i just finished this book and i thought it was a very worthwhile read. my favorite part is when macleod sums it all up at the end: "work hard. keep at it. live simply and quietly. remain humble. stay positive. create your own luck. be nice. be polite." such great words to live by in music and all aspects of life.

102. Julie Lendon Stone (2010-01-26) #

     What a wonderful read this has been. Not the book (haven't read it yet) Every single review / opinion is super! Now . . . I should go read the book. Although you guys have pretty much chewed it up and digested it for me.
     
     The artist's faithfulness to his unique, honest identity, accompanied by his sincere and humble dedication to artistic growth and self-confidence makes him the best he can be . . . right?
     
     I will definitely read the book. Thanks everyone! Keep up the great work, Derek!

103. Melissa McKee Fleckenstein (2010-01-26) #

     Hi Derek,
     Thanks for the suggestion, sounds like an incredible read, can't wait to look into it. Keep putting out these great finds, you seem to have a gift for influencing individuals in a great way. Thanks again for continuing to share finds like this so openly, as you are helping shape the destinies of others. Keep up the great work!!!
     May all the goodness and blessings come back to you.

104. Atul Rana (2010-01-28) #

     Derek
     
     A belated thanks for this and including my thoughts amongst all the other posts.
     
     Atul

105. Walter Clark (2010-01-29) #

     Enjoyed this book! There's an even more in-depth and compelling book on the subject that's just as easy to read . Its called "The War of Art" (not to be confused with "The Art of War." Great take on what we creative types are really up against.
     This book really changed my life:
     http://www.amazon.com/War-Art-Through-Creative-Battles/dp/0446691437

106. Rob Phas (2010-02-05) #

     Thanks for the recommendation, Derek. I purchased the audiobook and have listened to it four times in the last three days. It's fantastic.
     
     It's also pretty hilarious to hear the narrator act out the cartoons. Though, I will be buying the dead tree version as well so I can actually see them.

107. Nashid Ali (2010-02-11) #

     haha this is my mantra in a way, i'm constantly changing my number, removing contants, staying distant from those who i cannot stand their mindset; however, deciding the path often dictates who or what will accompany the travelers.

108. Shan Moy (2010-02-11) #

     "I'm to sensitive to live in a world where art is just a business. I need to find a better purpose
     for my music."
     "You don't make a living from doing your art, You make a meaning full life"
     "They can't pay me enough to stop doing what I love."
     
     "Art is a sacred journey."

109. Eric Dennis (2010-02-11) #

     Interesting topic.
     
     We all know that pop musicians are "created" and or "groomed" to be whatever is popular at the time and made to become whatever is likely to sell the most. The genre I play (heavy metal) has nothing to do with what is popular. I tend not to listen to a lot of the newer bands because I'm not jumping on anyone else's back and riding their train. I have my own unique style and music that comes from my soul and while I certainly have influences, I don't sound like any of them. Originality is what will carry me to the top, not some "he sounds like-" copy cat nonsense. This sort of thing is pervasive on Youtube. Most of the young guitarist want to sweep pick and become neo-classical copies of each other. Not me. When you hear me play, if you don't know who it is you will ask "who is that" and by the time I'm selling you my records, you will know when you hear me, who it is. There is always someone younger, stronger, faster, better looking, more technical, whatever... but there is only one ME and that's the only one I'm competing against.

110. Andy Salvanos (2010-02-11) #

     This is the only nonfiction book I've felt compelled to buy in years.
     
     I don't agree with Hugh on all points e.g. I actually never found a "day job" outside of music that gave me any real satisfaction.
     
     Overall the book succeeds brilliantly, because the author understands the doubts that plague creative people, both from within and from others.

111. AIM (2010-02-12) #

     I read the book too, actually I'm still on it, but it's really great so for...looking forward to reading linchpin.
     
     peace

112. Lavinia Ross (2010-02-15) #

     I like Eric's comment above (#109), although I don't ever expect to make it to the "top", whatever that is. Music is a continuing adventure, an exploration of my own creativity and style. Wherever it goes it goes, although I never stop trying new avenues. The most recent and difficult to ignore criticism of my "explorations" was from a cat. I was trying to learn harmonica. At first she came up on the back of the couch, meowing and waving her feet. I thought, "How sweet, she is singing along!", and continued to play. She determined I was not taking the "hint", and jumped into my lap, shoving the harmonica up my nose to get me to stop. Ouch! Criticism can be painful...

113. Jordan Lee Kirby (2010-02-15) #

     The overwhelming majority of the world's great writers and artrists remain on the outside of the music business, not the inside. Business and the arts don't mix, they only tolerate each other.

114. Edmund Andrade (2010-05-17) #

     sometimes i lock myself away from the public, look to the hills and meditate on the higher powers and things just flow from within, it come from the allmighty, who is the allrighty!Is that original or not?

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